If the govt is funding a study, don’t you think the study won’t be biased and the scientists will give whatever results the govt is looking for so they can continue to receive funds for further studies? Afterall, it IS a racket.
Do you really think any research being funded by the govt is truly unbiased?
Bob,

Then as a scientist do you believe the statement, drawn from research by NASA that Global Warming is man-made due to Greenhouse Gas Emissons (as opposed to the Natural Cycle theory of many other scientists who are not being paid to come up with an answer)
Bob, I showed your answer to a scientist and here is his response to your statement:
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What a hoot!. As a scientist who has worked for big brother…this answer is so far from reality. Hard to know where to begin to answer. He either knows nothing and won’t make it or is one of the bad guys…
Wait till he gets his grants refused on politics, nepotism, influence… He’ll wake up and probably go to the bad if he’s not already there. His disillusionment is going to really really smart when it comes.

From the extreme naive and inaccurate answer one has to suspect it makes him a student or post doc or one of the bad guys he talks about…Definitely not telling it like it really is…

Govt and academic (govt especially)

1) They are under extreme pressure to produce quantity not quality. So there’s a ton of them that will publish or write anything..outside their area of expertise, write silly position papers (say on global warming), reviews..can
give you true examples if you want..

Each year, me and all my employees got rated by publications per head..NOT QUALITY
OR ACCURACY and as the leader the AMOUNT of MONEY I brought in.

I had lots of employees and so just on numbers was extremely prolific but my boss pressured me continuously to make things up and increase the publication number..I wouldn’t.

2) Research funding is down so there’s lots of scientists trying to to save their jobs (see my get laid or eat comments). The disciplines of science are over populated for the resources..they are getting down to eating their young out of desperation (racketeering too to use the naive critters comments).

They will say or do anything. Need for food will override anything same for a tenure academic. Worst time I have ever seen in hype (not just in environment stuff). NASA in particular cause lots of fellow Americans who don’t see the relevance of the money spent on what they mean American’s lives and think NASA funding would be better spent on say health care.

So they are trying to look relevant..say saving the planet from evil global warming
They got another agenda…its cash and save our jobs (whatever it takes)..

As the Cold War ended,lots of govt. scientists funding got zeroed. Americans not scared of nuclear war anymore who needs a atmospheric turbulence lab if the bombs aren’t going to turbulence it??? If the bomb isn’t going to trash stuff with an EMF pulse, who needs the EMF scientist at the govt. lab? Who indeed?

So lots of them thought up new scares, ooooh scary cell phones and scary EMF causing cancer, ooooh scary global warming..etc. etc.
) Hugely Silly Stupid comment..”can’t be fired in govt. or loose tenure for disagreeing with a position that the administration or just your boss wants..been there done that..

I got fired for pointing out my boss was forging results and refusing to fake data myself (by the way I had the govt. equivalent of tenure, lol). I had the hard evidence on him too.

Here’s how it went. A group leader was being pressured into sex with her boss (mine too different divisions) and her refusal was going to get her fired (he took away her funding, not his money…her funding). Her husband, a scientist too asked me to help. He knew I had the hard evidence on the boss. I was leaving and didn’t want to get into the fight.
The husband’s boss, a big scientist, called me in for a chat got me into the fight with the quote by Edmund Burke, “Evil can only prevail while good men stand by and do nothing”. I swore at him for 15 minutes straight. Thought up some good original obscenities too. I knew he had me with this argument.

I initially got fired in that fight. But the good guys eventually won. The right thing eventually came about..not the way the naive critter that made the post would think.

My boss was bringing in lots of money from Washington so didn’t matter if he was making up stuff to get the money or sexually harassing his female employees etc.
They fired him when the cash flow went down. lol. They weighed his cash flow verses the trouble if the two managers went public with the environmental data forgery, sexual harassment (and a host of other things like misappropriation of funds, doing things directly ordered not to by Congress etc.). I was there as this debate was taking place. He was still bringing in huge dollars but less.. for a moment I thought we were going to loose. I was leaving so wouldn’t have hurt me but I feared for the wife of the other scientist..she would have to “give it up” or be fired if we lost.

They don’t want the truth..just $$$$ honey..When in doubt about anything..follow the cash girl (NASA, global warming etc. etc.).

Oh, by the way he was forging environmental risk studies..get the trend whats going on right now…lol..
4) They have been after Hansen for years for hyping the meaning of his results..they right, he right nobody knows. When Hansen’s cash level drops..they will take him..

The guy that started all the electromagnetic fields cause breast cancer, cell phone hooey was a govt. scientist. Didn’t dare touch him while the press really had its teeth in this scare. The data eventually proved him wrong. They went in and he was shown to have forged his data he used to trying to scare you..Really quietly fired him for this…You didn’t hear that did you! Probably still think your cell phone and toaster causing cancer. not your fault, his and govt. agency his boss.

5). Academic tenure is similarly reliable. HAHAHAHAHAHA..Its all about money, what you bring in the university and salary for yourself..Data hyping, forgery, fraud at all time high from these sources..Not just a few as this naive critter says. The competition for grant funding is incredible. You get fired if you don’t bring in cash.
Publish or perish…

Plus, you can publish some hooey and nobody really checks..less you wade into global warming. You use your buddies to peer review your paper.rub my back I get a grant and I rub yours and you get a grant..everybody eats. Peer review system got a terrible problem…

6). Preferred outcome..happens all the time..see my example on risk of coal fired plants verses nuclear plants.

7). Academic types are soooo busy trying to get company money..I get hit up by them continuously. Its not the private company scientists you have to worry about. Its the govt or academic types, Lots and lots of them for sale. lol..

8). Company types got their problems too but their products have to work every time on time. The ultimate test of truth..not to mention they have the govt. regulator scientists watching everything they do, not to mention observation by the hypocrite academic types..They are under a much bigger microscope than the govt. or academic types.
Public companies have a zillion shareholders…they make something that doesn’t work cause bad science, environmental damage and loose shareholders money…they are toast…Quite the opposite on the tenure comment, they don’t have tenure to hide under…

Private scientist got their provocations to lie too. But more scrutiny on them.

9) Lying or backing a wrong theory bad for your career…hohohohoho.. I can tell you some stories about some of the most notable data forgers and where they are still working (including my former boss, lol).. You guessed it full professors at universities…

Makes me sad and want to puke that the “racket” of scare tactics, corruption, fraud, politics, influence peddling has become so persuasive in my chosen career…
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